What is real healing?

Devotee: How can you give weight (importance) to family and living in a family and also give importance to the healing process, and the healing profession?

Guru: You know, what you just asked me is a very loaded question. I use the words ‘very loaded’ because wherever I go in Europe, I haven’t found many people who are not involved in either healing, massage, or other therapies. 

Now, if somebody were to come to me and want to give me some form of therapy, then even before that person puts their hand on me, I will ask, “What sort of lifestyle have you got? How do you know what you are going to give me?”

That person is going to convey that vibration to me in my body. I want somebody capable of removing any obstacle that I have got with an energy that is not just theirs but one that is fed by divine power. 

If a person wants to heal, then he or she must prepare the ground for healing. Healing is not something anybody can do. It is a grace that flows from the Divine. 

Real healing means the removal of karma

What is healing? Healing means you are going to remove the karma that the person is suffering from. Why is that karma there in the first instance? It’s there because they have created that karma and are suffering the consequences of their actions.

A person must be pretty foolish to go and interfere with karma and expect not to absorb some part of that karma into their own lives, [especially] if they have not prepared themselves to be ready to receive that karma.

There are many methods by which you can dissolve that karma yet not all of that karma. Some part of that karma you have to wear. That was what Christ did when he was on the cross and He took the term, ‘sins of the world’ upon himself and suffered death on the cross. 

Anyone who tries to oversimplify that and say that they have got an easier solution to karma than wearing it and suffering its consequences or asking divine grace to help heal is on the wrong track. They are giving the wrong impression that they can heal.

We can minimise the effect of karma with counselling, and with helping. But sometimes the body is longing for another human being to put their hand on it and ease the pressure on their body. If you can call that healing, I understand that, but that is not really healing. 

This is a form of manipulation because the nerves are all screaming; they are tight and rigid. If you want to get your hands in and then, go ‘zzzzz’ and start moving things, and slowly helping to dissolve the crystals that have formed in the fabric of the body then that is a technical job. You can’t classify that as ‘healing’. 

If a person has a real problem physically and you want to help that person and say, “I want to heal you”, that means you want to share your karma with them. I want to take that karma from you and wear it, and if possible with the grace of God He will take some part of that karma from you. It’s a big responsibility, not an easy one.

People use this term ‘healing’ very glibly, superficially. I would love to get into that very carefully. When somebody says, ‘I am going to heal,’ I Iike to know how they will do it. I am a sceptic. Ok? Or do you want me to talk more about it?

Devotee: Yes, please. Would you then say it’s better to massage someone physically to release the tension rather than do, for example, a chakra balancing?

Guru: Yes.

Devotee: Better to do massage?

Guru: Massage. 

Devotee: Is chakra balancing interfering with karma?

Guru: ‘Chakra balancing’ is a term used by people to dramatise something they don’t know. Do you know what the balancing of chakras means? You must be a pretty good magician to do that. There are chakras throughout the whole body. You must have such a power to move the energy from one chakra to another chakra, and all the time make the person realise that he is opening and shutting the chakras naturally.

Devotee: So what happens if you lovingly put your hand on somebody’s chakras or sacred polarities? Is that helpful?

Guru: Very helpful, very helpful but I would like to modify the terminology used by people more and more.

I can place my finger/hand, anybody can do it, and if you concentrate hard enough you can raise the Kundalini from one point to another without any difficulty at all. It’s not a problem raising the Kundalini. Having raised it, how are you going to get it down if you don’t know? You disturb the human being completely and leave the person more confused than ever.

That is a worry for me because I’ve had a lot of devotees who come to me whose Kundalini has been raised and they’ve paid a hundred pounds for raising this Kundalini and they have a hundred pounds of problems – mentally disturbed. 

You must have confidence in the person whom you’re working with. You must know the person who is going to work with you. You must understand full well that whatever a human being does unless they are connected with divine consciousness, there are limitations.

Devotee: I feel that bodywork cannot heal but it can make us more open and aware and these could be the first steps.

Guru: These are the first steps. Now you’re speaking my language. 

Devotee: Yes but I meant something different when I asked. I meant what to give more importance to – healing or having a family?

Guru: Having a family? 

Devotee: Yes.

Guru: Have both. Have a family and work with it. No problem. Psychotherapy is very good, but also remember that it is a dangerous subject. 

Devotee: That’s what I wanted to ask you just now, and now we talk about it!

Guru: I thought I’d answer it without you asking me!

Devotee: That means having simple devotion and going to God at the shrine we have and praying. Can that give us what we need?

Guru: If you are by yourself relying on your own abilities but sometimes you need to share your difficulties with other people, you may go to a psychotherapist. 

Devotee: But when I am by myself and I have trouble and want to know something, I can work with devotion as I learned in the Bhagavad Gita.

Guru: Absolutely. You can go to God. Absolutely. I’m not knocking your profession in any way, but I’m cautioning you to put so much complete trust in one thing or the other. You must be able to say to yourself, “If it works, ok. If it doesn’t work, ok.”

It depends on the individual who is giving you the therapy, how dedicated and disciplined the person is, and how the person is able to deal with the complexities of the mind. You must remember the mind is a complex mechanism, very complex. You can’t oversimplify this complex mechanism.

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